Exclusive Interview: 'Amer' Co-Directors Cattet and Forzani

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Exclusive Interview: 'Amer' Co-Directors Cattet and Forzani

Posted October 5, 2011 10:36 AM by Jeffrey Kauffman

Quentin Tarantino named Amer as one of his 20 Favorite Films of the past year, and the French-Belgian production, co-directed by Hélène Cattet and Bruno Forzani, continues to reap critical accolades, including here at Blu-ray.com. Staff reviewer Jeffrey Kauffman had a chance to interview Cattet and Forzani on a wide range of subjects.

Tell me a little about both of your backgrounds. Where were you born, raised?

Hélène comes from Paris and Bruno from the South of France (where most of Amer was shot).

Where did you meet?

We met in Brussels (Belgium) during our studies.

Are you a couple, or just professional collaborators?

We became a couple and then started to make short films together.

What were your early film experiences? What initially led to your making your short films, included on the Blu-ray? Was your intention always to get into features?

We had two totally different backgrounds and interests in cinema. Our first short Catharsis is the meeting point of these two worlds : Chris Marker (La Jetée) and Dario Argento. If we accepted to do this "hybridization" it's because we are a couple and it was a way to share our passion together even if we are very different. We don't think we could have been able to do this with someone else. Then making shorts became our common hobby, a way to make something exciting, once a year, with the little money we saved from our day jobs during the year. Those shorts had a nice life in festivals and one day we decided to work with a producer (for our last short Santos Palace) to see how it was to shoot in a standard professional way. After that short we felt ready to make a feature.

What do you find so interesting about the Giallo genre? What are some of your favorite Giallo films?

The Giallo genre is a world for us where we can communicate and mix our two worlds. It's a mix between experimental cinema and entertainment! If you look beyond the detective aspect of Giallo, you'll find a very rich subtext and iconography about fantasies and sexuality, the kind of topics we like to develop in our films. Then, the most impressive thing in Giallo movies is the directing: most of the Giallo directors developed a lot their mise en scene to tell their story—although they hadn't a lot of money to make the films! You can find there a lot of creativity and a lot of excesses, a free spirit which results in incredible sequences. It's that spirit that we love and that gave us faith to make movies! Some of our favorite Giallos are Dario Argento's Deep Red, Lucio Fulci's Woman in a Lizard Skin, Umberto Lenzi's Seven Bloodstained Orchids and Sergio Martino's Strange Vice of Mrs. Wardh.

Was there any particular inspiration for Amer?

The French Riviera where Bruno used to live was a big inspiration: it reminds him of some intimate and cinematographic memories (several Giallos have been shot there), and the incredible abandoned old house you can see in the movie fascinated him during his childhood. Then, we were inspired by Pinku Eiga (a Japanese erotic movies of the 70's), Mario Bava's The Drop of Water, the Giallo universe (things like landscape, colors, and costumes) and one sentence in Irène Némirovsky's book called Le bal.

Did you intentionally set out to make a film where not everything is laid out in clear little steps for the audience? In other words, the film seems to have a lot of room for individual interpretation, was that your intent?

Yes, totally! One of our biggest cinematographic shocks has been Satoshi Kon's Millenium Actress. It's a movie you can watch in so many different ways! Each time you watch it, you can discover new levels of reading, it's amazing! Kon pushed this concept more into abstraction with Paranoia Agent, which is a masterpiece! So we wrote the script with this idea that you can discover new things each time you watch the movie. A second big influence in the writing was Dario Argento's Inferno: it's one of the scariest movies for us. Bruno met Dario Argento years ago and Argento explained to him about his writing process with the subconscious for this film. It creates a dream (or nightmare)-like world where the audience doesn't have all the keys and is unsettled—and that could create fear.

How did you fund Amer?

It was funded with the help of Belgium's Ministry of Culture, a French TV company called Canal + and some local funding from the region where we shot the movie.

How long did it take to shoot and where did you shoot it?

We had 39 days of shooting on the French Riviera, the Italian Riviera and some studio work in Belgium.

Amer is a film more dependent than perhaps is usual on editing. How involved were you in the editing process?

Before the real shooting, we shot the film with just the two of us using a little digital camera to see if our storyboard was effective. Then we did a first editing of the film ourselves. The final editing was based on that.

Did you have any problems licensing the music you culled from previous films?

It took us a lot of time to get them all, but the licensors at the record companies we were in contact with were very nice and helpful and they did their best to make it possible.

In your minds, does Amer have a plot or theme?

Sure, it's the discovery of desire, body and sexuality of a female protagonist at three moments of her life.

Quentin Tarantino named Amer as one of his 20 favorite films of the last year. Have you heard from Quentin personally? Is he helping you to make connections in the American film industry?

Yes, Quentin Tarantino told us his thoughts about the film and it was just magical for two little unknown Belgian directors to hear from him. We couldn't believe it was real. He gave us tons of energy to continue making films!

Do you have any ambitions to helm an American film?

We have received other propositions from the United States, but for the moment our priority is our new feature called The Strange Colour of Your Body's Tears. We have already worked on it for seven years and will probably start shooting in early 2012 with the same producers we worked with on Amer. They are very respectful of our work, which is priceless for us!

Do you have any other projects in the pipeline?

We are part of the ABC's of Death anthology film (http://rs.drafthousefilms.com/the-abcs-of-death/about).

Thanks, Hélène and Bruno!